Fisk ([info]fiskblack) wrote,
@ 2009-11-10 15:40:00
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From my chest pubes, down to my ball fro...
There's a lot of cover before I dive back into full time work after a long, lazy, luscious weekend!


The second part of Red Riding Hood was released, and I already know how the third and final installment will go. It was very interesting and somewhat bemusing to receive a new wave of criticism revolving around what everyone wanted or expected to happen to Pablo. It's funny to note I haven't received a single disappointed email or comment, from any woman or any man, about the fate of Red Riding Hood! But there's something about Pablo that had a lot of people worked up to a high froth. Perhaps some people identified with him a little bit and took what happened to him a bit personally? I can't tell. But the criticisms revolved around the fact that I was depicting a submissive male and it was being taken as an insult to all submissive males, coupled with the criticism that I never depict submissive males (though when I do, it's taken as an insult). There were those who were expecting him to have intercourse with female wolves and even impregnate a few of them. And there were those who wanted him to be the subject of gay rape, and took great insult at the fact that this probably won't happen until he's been turned into a feminized shemale, something that's well on its way by the end of the second comic. A lot of this comes with the expressed disappointment, sometimes visceral anger, that I don't draw comics with gay unions as the central focus in general.

I suppose I owe an explanation about why I do what I do. I couldn't have Pablo enjoy an ordinary sexual union with female wolves of the tribe. It would be incongruent to the rest of the story's main underlying vein: the wolves having a savage kind of allure and prowess that makes them hard to resist. It would strip away the reasoning behind Red's conversion if her boyfriend had an equivalent prowess. So I simply couldn't do that. The most perplexing criticism was the boldness asserted by, I presume, gay men in the fandom suffering from the tremendously frustrating LACK of homosexual themed work (ahem), turning to me, a straight man, to fill the void. If you'll pardon the expression "fill the void". Many of them were anticipating Pablo would receive the same treatment that his girlfriend would. There's not really been much precedent for that in my comics, so I'm not sure why they expected it from me, but it was something I had to field. When I was younger I was more experimental in my work and drew the occasional gay-themed piece. As time went on, I found straight sex was far more arousing, fulfilling, and pleasant to behold for me, so I fell into that groove. My ability to draw men as sexual beings is derived from my ability to recognize their attractiveness, despite an overwhelming, hard-wired, biological preference for women. Believe me, it's like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it. The degree to which I would be attracted to a man, today, is the degree to which he affects the look and mannerisms of a woman. So, I took the course with Pablo that I did, and it upset some gay men, apparently. I'm sorry, but I will tend to lean heavily toward heterosexual themes, and sometimes that kinky "gray" area, just because of my own preferences. There's no insult intended.

Moving on, I'm currently leaning toward another Persia and Flounce story involving a third party character who's even more of a sissy. It's an idea I've had rattling around in my mind for some time. Now that their child (who I've yet to draw.. or even name.. or think about at all) is old enough to be going to school, they should have plenty more fooling around time worthy of depicting. I wanted to dredge up a little more of Flounce's past and imply a little more about his "before Persia" life. It'll also be a good practice in drawing Bonk-worthy girly-boyish males, which I suppose relates to the prior discussion. Next year I want to dive back into the Haukaiu story and wrap up the two final chapters of his little adventure. I will be doing it in the comic form I've been doing Red Riding Hood in, since it's far more visually pleasing than writing it like a story book with individual illustrations. Or I may come up with a unique format, since it's a bit more text-reliant than Red Riding Hood. As in, the plot matters way more. Speaking of characters associated with the color red, a new character will be appearing for the first time in comics, next year. "Red" the otter will be appearing in a plotline, as one of Fisk's work associates, perhaps even with nefarious intentions!

I also need to do a new cover image for the front page of my website. The current one's been up too long. Maybe I'll get some time in for that this week. A lot of my time this week will be devoted to getting my Original Life buffer back up to comfortable levels. I ate into it a bit while getting Red Riding Hood completed.



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[info]paradiseforlorn
2009-11-10 08:51 pm UTC (link)
You already know this...so why say what you already know? Because sometimes it's nice to Hear it from someone once in a while.

Your stories are Yours to tell as you see fit, as you desire. You draw for You, you create for You [OK so a lil profit on the side never hurt]

Not everyone will like what you have, not everyone will agree, but not everyone will hate it either.

Many people have bad mouthed you, and kissed your ass...comes with the territory. I personally don't give a rats ass what happened in the past with who what where when or why. I like what you have to offer. Plain and simple. Your reasons are your own. I'm sure however, they aren't meant to be insulting.

People forget that artists, storytellers and so on aren't there to Serve them...they are there to Share. Of their own free will. And that is what you do.

So....with that in mind.. Carry on, I look forward to see what else you create.

~Kata'lina

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[info]fiskblack
2009-11-10 08:55 pm UTC (link)
And knowing that I can't please one group without disappointing another, the best course is to please myself.

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(no subject) - [info]paradiseforlorn, 2009-11-10 09:00 pm UTC

[info]okamisan
2009-11-10 09:12 pm UTC (link)
Hey Jay, what ever happened to the new world comic? It just disappeared :(

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[info]fiskblack
2009-11-10 09:21 pm UTC (link)
There was a journal entry up for weeks explaining it.

Ah, here it is. http://fiskblack.livejournal.com/89843.html

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(no subject) - [info]okamisan, 2009-11-10 09:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fiskblack, 2009-11-10 09:36 pm UTC

[info]seera8472
2009-11-10 09:50 pm UTC (link)
I'm guessing that it's because people like submissive females, and not so much submissive males. They expected Pablo to end up on top. Or something.

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Commenting and asking
[info]hamos
2009-11-10 10:29 pm UTC (link)
I must say...no i'm not kissing your ass....that you are an exceptional author, story teller and above all, a fantastic artist. True I have seen some other comics plots from ONE other artist that do compare with yours. However, no other comic and story writer can keep me laughing like you can. Ex. Better days: (Fisk) Mmm...potato's, Original life: (I forget the youngest girls name) Darn! You can really relate to others, and keep them laughing. I enjoy both your Comics and catalogs. They are both exceptional and come from a very talented person. (Ok, I'm kissing a little, but only because you deserve it!)

I also had a question, I have asked you maybe three times before but you never reply (I understand if your busy) so I thought I could catch you here. I was wondering if you will ever show us what happened in detail between Fisk and Lucy in the chapter "Brothers Arms"...I'm dying to actually see it, not imagine.

Please answer me if you are or are not going to make a adult comic depicting the sexual events between them that night.

my e-mail is hamosangel@yahoo.com

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Re: Commenting and asking
[info]fiskblack
2009-11-10 10:35 pm UTC (link)
That's never going to be depicted by me. It's one of those things that was written in when I had a different view of how I should write events into the comic, and if I had it to do over, I wouldn't have done that. Plus, they were too young for me to comfortably put them into an adult feature.

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[info]insanity_leach
2009-11-10 10:33 pm UTC (link)
I don't know about the whole adult side of what you do but I like "Better Days" and now "Original Life." I also like the contrast between the beginning of the two comics. I fell in love with with your work on the 5th chapter of "Better Days" the September 26, 2003 comic where Fisk take the bat to Harve's face. It's so different from Janie and Leo's Volley Ball match. So different yet so well done! Just though I'd give you props since I've been reading your comics for several years and haven't said a lick to ya...

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Just letting you know
[info]oda_wolf
2009-11-10 10:34 pm UTC (link)
Heya, I'm just letting you know that there is a site that has a lot of your work/s up to view for free. Including your more recent second part of Red Riding Hood. ^^;

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Just letting you know (also)
[info]hamos
2009-11-10 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I've also seen this, does it concern you???

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Ah! Now I get it!
[info]snowdogb77
2009-11-10 10:44 pm UTC (link)
I personally was wondering how the "Pablo Transformation" would be depicted, and the whole Wolf Estrogen Infusion works for me. I can now easily picture Pablo getting it from both sides, with the males giving him a good ream while the females take advantage of his tongue (possible GS kink segue here!).

You touched on a Male/Male theme in the Rachel comic "No Remorse" between Alex and his brother, and even though I'm not gay I found it highly erotic, so I can understand why your gay fans would want to see this.

As far as the introduction of Red the Otter and her being introduced as Fisk's co-worker with nefarious intentions, I would like to ask how nefarious are they? Does she have her eyes fixed on Fisk, or perhaps....dare I say it....ELIZABETH!! Can you say THREESOME? Just a thought...

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Re: Ah! Now I get it!
[info]fiskblack
2009-11-10 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Heh. No, no threesome.

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Re: Ah! Now I get it! - [info]snowdogb77, 2009-11-10 10:56 pm UTC

[info]tzisorey
2009-11-10 10:48 pm UTC (link)
I had wondered why you stopped drawing M/M stuff. It's nice to know what the reason was.


Meh, I still enjoy your work, even without it ;)

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[info]wlfdog
2009-11-10 10:53 pm UTC (link)
You don't have to justify why you draw what you do. :3

I still have yet to see the Red Riding Hood comic.

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[info]fiskblack
2009-11-10 11:02 pm UTC (link)
There's no excuse for this, missy. :3

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(no subject) - [info]wlfdog, 2009-11-12 03:47 am UTC
No complaints from me.. No way...
[info]grizzly47
2009-11-10 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Just for the record, though I've only seen a small amount of your work I like what I see and read.

As a straight gentleman too (It is amazing just how hard-wired we are toward a woman isn't it?) I prefer the straight themes of your work immensely!

Absolutely... No Complaints!

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PS about the artwork at the top..
[info]grizzly47
2009-11-10 11:08 pm UTC (link)
This is an adorable pick of Janie, Abby & Thomas!

Great work!!!

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[info]radjinwolf
2009-11-10 11:30 pm UTC (link)
It's interesting, because I live with someone who also expressed both his distress at what happened to Pablo and his frustration with you never drawing gay porn. My answer to him was the same that you just gave; "He's straight, so why would he draw gay porn?"

I'm a gay guy, and I love your comics because they're straight. To me, there's not enough male-on-female porn in general, and the level you take it (breeding as a theme in particular) is phenomenally enjoyable to me.

As for Pablo, I find the direction you're taking particularly interesting and I can't wait to see what they do with him next.

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[info]fiskblack
2009-11-10 11:34 pm UTC (link)
I think the internet sort of instills a sense of entitlement in some people and they're not introspective enough to realize it.

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(no subject) - [info]vason, 2009-11-11 01:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fiskblack, 2009-11-11 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vason, 2009-11-12 03:21 am UTC

[info]grrolin
2009-11-11 03:07 am UTC (link)
Ah, I remember Red! Man, that was a long time ago. I miss that place too. Oh well, on to newer and hopefully better things!

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[info]aelius24
2009-11-11 04:19 am UTC (link)
Ooh, neat; I was wondering if Red would ever make an appearance again. Can't wait to see her in action.

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[info]banner
2009-11-11 04:59 am UTC (link)
Just keep doing what you enjoy and you'll keep being successful. As the song says: You can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself.

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[info]ibneko
2009-11-11 07:57 am UTC (link)
Teehee, "Bonk-worthy girly-boyish males". That phrase keeps making me grin, for some reason I can't quite figure out.

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Red the Otter
[info]naylorfan90
2009-11-11 01:29 pm UTC (link)
I feel odd for asking this, but I really don't know the answer; who's Red the Otter? Could someone please tell me?

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Re: Red the Otter
[info]misswoof
2009-11-12 06:39 am UTC (link)
Red is one of his characters that he hasn't come around to using yet. I've seen sketches of her but that's it.

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Re: Red the Otter - [info]naylorfan90, 2009-11-12 01:52 pm UTC

[info]thornius2
2009-11-12 02:11 am UTC (link)
Jay, I LOVE what you did to Pablo! I am a Straight male myself. A couple of years ago my doctor gave me some new blood pressure medicine that had the unexpected effect of causing me to start growing breasts! My wife and I noticed it AFTER I had reached an "A" Cup in size. I said, "Well I guess it's time for me to go buy a BRO." My wife said, "No, honey, you need a Mansiere." Ah well, c'est la vie. I saw your comic strip and said, "I have turned into Pablo!"

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Shemale ?
[info]marmist88
2009-11-12 05:49 am UTC (link)
sorry for the question, Jay, but something you said made me wonder....

You said Pablo is mutating into a shemale ? What this mean ? Is he going to become a total female or is he going to have....both genitals ?
Just a curiosity, even if I'd prefer a total mutation...

Thanks for the attention..

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Re: Shemale ?
[info]fiskblack
2009-11-12 06:31 am UTC (link)
My understanding is a shemale is a male that's undergone extensive hormone therapy, and has the body of a woman but the primary genitals of a man. It's often the precursor to a complete sex change operation. But it's actually an attainable thing, requiring no fantasy magic, so I felt more comfortable with it as a body modification for Pablo.

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Re: Shemale ? - [info]dcrew, 2009-11-13 03:40 am UTC

[info]misswoof
2009-11-12 06:37 am UTC (link)
Honestly Jay, with you being straight I think you post more gay stuff than even I would be comfortable with. I draw strictly hetero and refuse to do anything gayish related. It's not my thing either and I'm a woman. I'm impressed that you can even draw such detailed male genitals, lol. I enjoy Bonk's art, but prefer yours since you do more hetero than anything, and like was said before, I think finding hetero in furries is VERY difficult these days. A lot of people like Male on Male when it comes to furries. It's nice to be able to come and look at your work and get something different than what is more popular on the internet.
Oh and I love the cute winter sketch. I don't get to see christmas/winter themed stuff a lot. Speaking of which, think you'd ever do something in the catalogue with a holoiday theme? I just imagine Lucy or Elizabeth in some sexy Mrs. Claus outfit, haha.

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[info]fiskblack
2009-11-12 08:11 pm UTC (link)
I tend not to do holiday themes, though with Original Life being closer to a timeless, ongoing comic, I can do seasonal modern themes in the way characters dress and all.

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(no subject) - [info]misswoof, 2009-11-13 12:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fiskblack, 2009-11-13 01:56 am UTC
I didnt even think Pablo was gonna live. - [info]agentexeider, 2009-11-13 05:17 am UTC
Re: I didnt even think Pablo was gonna live. - [info]stormydragon, 2009-11-13 05:26 am UTC
Re: I didnt even think Pablo was gonna live. - [info]agentexeider, 2009-11-13 08:03 am UTC
Re: I didnt even think Pablo was gonna live. - [info]stormydragon, 2009-11-13 06:47 pm UTC
MST3K. - [info]agentexeider, 2009-11-14 01:42 am UTC
thx for the spoiler
[info]yamitora1
2009-11-13 05:25 am UTC (link)
geez jay, thx for the spoiler....since you already let the cat out of the bag how about letting us read it for free :3

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Re: thx for the spoiler
[info]fiskblack
2009-11-13 09:21 am UTC (link)
Shit, I'm sorry. I didn't think about that.

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Re: thx for the spoiler - [info]yamitora1, 2009-11-13 06:41 pm UTC

[info]remmus64
2009-11-13 07:10 am UTC (link)
well today Thomas deserves a smack on the nose with a newspaper, Beatles rock and shall be played even in the dark Nuclear post-apoc future because of there awesomeness

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[info]fiskblack
2009-11-13 09:23 am UTC (link)
It'll be played in the post-apocalyptic future because everyone will be shambling zombies. :3

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(no subject) - [info]remmus64, 2009-11-13 09:39 am UTC
Dang, such hostility.....LOL
[info]snowdogb77
2009-11-13 04:12 pm UTC (link)
Towards The Beatles! If it weren't for those guys from Liverpool, modern music as we know it would not exist. We would probably all be wandering the world as mindless rednecks, constantly humming Hank Williams tunes!

Loved the pic on the front page this morning, Mr. Snowman with a football stuck in his face.....

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Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL
[info]fiskblack
2009-11-13 05:32 pm UTC (link)
What can I say. I find the Beatles to be insufferably dull.

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Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL - [info]snowdogb77, 2009-11-13 05:47 pm UTC
Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL - [info]naylorfan90, 2009-11-13 06:58 pm UTC
Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL - [info]stormydragon, 2009-11-13 08:33 pm UTC
Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL - [info]fiskblack, 2009-11-13 08:37 pm UTC
Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL - [info]naylorfan90, 2009-11-13 09:00 pm UTC
Re: Dang, such hostility.....LOL - [info]eng050599, 2009-11-16 05:00 pm UTC
I like your Stuff!
[info]holleyb76
2009-11-14 05:56 am UTC (link)
Love your stuff! Came across it on a free sample site. I was especially drawn towards "Puppy Love" "Amys Little Lamb Summer Camp Adventure" (So Hot!!!!!) and "The Best Friends Brother"
I was particularly happy to see an R rated back story, which i read in a marathon setting. I may not be able to afford paying every month for a subscription, but I'll be back for sure.
Keep up the great work! My husband and I thank you.

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[info]dontbannme
2009-11-15 05:51 am UTC (link)
i dont know, i thought what happened to pablo was pretty interesting... seems like a nice twist in an already interesting plot

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